Update 5.7.9

Francolino · Jul 17th 2014, 11:47am

Dear users,

Today the Origin server will be updated to 5.7.9.

[Feature] Recyclers will change the drive they use.

At the moment they always use Combustion drive.
Once Impulse drive level 17 has been researched, recyclers will use this one.
Once Hyperspace drive level 15 has been researched, recyclers will use this one.

Best regards, your OGame.Origin team

Francolino · Jul 17th 2014, 12:18pm

Examples for a 1x universe:

Always 1000 ships to the next solar system

Combustion 17

Recs - 95.826 Deuterium - 2:12:53h - 100%
Recs - 77.625 Deuterium - 2:46:03 h - 80%
Recs - 61.332 Deuterium - 3:41:21h - 60%
Recs - 34.499 Deuterium - 11:03:44h - 20%
Recs - 28.989 Deuterium - 22:07:17h - 10%

Impulse 17

Recs - 191.643 Deuterium - 1:13:41h - 100%
Recs - 122.663 Deuterium - 2:02:41h - 60%
Recs - 107.811 Deuterium - 2:27:11h - 50%
Recs - 68.998 Deuterium - 6:07:43h - 20%
Recs - 57.977 Deuterium - 12:15:17h - 10%

SC - 6.389 Deuterium - 0:46:40h - 100%
Crus - 95.815 Deuterium - 0:38:08h - 100%

Hyper 15

Recs - 287.494 Deuterium - 0:53:51h - 100%
Recs - 184.004 Deuterium - 1:29:38h - 60%
Recs - 140.866 Deuterium - 2:14:23h - 40%
Recs - 121.463 Deuterium - 2:59:07h - 30%
Recs - 103.497 Deuterium - 4:28:35h - 20%
Recs - 86.965 Deuterium - 8:57:01h - 10%

BS - 159.718 Deuterium - 0:41:45h - 100%
BC - 79.859 Deuterium - 0:41:45h - 100%
Dest - 319.386 Deuterium - 0:58:59h - 100%

Hyper 16

Recs - 287.457 Deuterium - 0:52:27h - 100%
Recs - 183.986 Deuterium - 1:27:18h - 60%
Recs - 140.866 Deuterium - 2:10:52h - 40%
Recs - 121.461 Deuterium - 2:54:26h - 30%
Recs - 103.497 Deuterium - 4:21:33h - 20%
Recs - 86.965 Deuterium - 8:42:57h - 10%

BS - 159.693 Deuterium - 0:40:40h - 100%
BC - 79.847 Deuterium - 0:40:40h - 100%
Dest - 319.435 Deuterium - 0:57:26h - 100%

brot · Jul 17th 2014, 12:33pm

why hyper 16?

WeTeHa · Jul 17th 2014, 12:35pm

brot wrote:

why hyper 16?

Level 16 was our first version, we changed it to 15 for our live update. But feel free to research 16 as well.

Francolino · Jul 17th 2014, 12:35pm

brot wrote:

why hyper 16?

Got me :P

Well, this was one of the levels to choose - I simply forgot to use the final level 15. I'll update the example with Hyper 15.

brot · Jul 17th 2014, 12:47pm

like this the update is a disadvantage
u research something for 1 billion ress and all u get is more flight costs
not very pleasant

it should be cheaper if u fly the same duration

WeTeHa · Jul 17th 2014, 12:50pm

brot wrote:

like this the update is a disadvantage
u research something for 1 billion ress and all u get is more flight costs
not very pleasant

it should be cheaper if u fly the same time

That's the price for a very huge advantage in flight speed.

brot · Jul 17th 2014, 1:00pm

the difference between combustion and impuls is ok

but the difference between imp and hyper is huge in terms of deut use

if u have already imp 17
u get penalised for reserching hyper 15

Francolino · Jul 17th 2014, 1:20pm

Updated the example table. :)

Horcon · Jul 17th 2014, 1:29pm

I have to agree with brot on this, at least a little. For a 20 minute boost, another 100k deut seems too much. Though I assume that the deut cost doesn't change during the drive change, which would make this just mechanical and not really up for discussion.

Overall I like the idea, and will have to push impulse 17 up in my plans.

Francolino · Jul 17th 2014, 1:37pm

1000 Recs to the next solar system

Combustion 17: 95.826 Deuterium - 2:12:53h - 100%

With Impulse 17: Goes up to ca. 115.000 Deuterium for the same speed

With Hyper 15: Goes up to ca. 139.000 Deuterium for the same speed

Francolino · Jul 17th 2014, 1:52pm

Metalica wrote:

can u research hyper 15 for running recs with hyper without having impulse 17?
or do u really need impulse 17 first and then hyper?

Yes you can, both is independent - Having hyper 15 (without having impulse 17) is enough.

Aoueu · Jul 17th 2014, 4:47pm

Are these examples from test cases, or calculated manually?
If manually, are you sure the numbers are correct?

Judging by them, the base speed for rec's will rise from 2000 to ~5930 (unless I'm mistaken). And with 15th hyper, they will fly about as fast as LF's with ~17th reactive.

benneb · Jul 17th 2014, 5:28pm

you can test it in test server Origin

Francolino · Jul 17th 2014, 5:37pm

Aoueu wrote:

Are these examples from test cases, or calculated manually?
If manually, are you sure the numbers are correct?

Judging by them, the base speed for rec's will rise from 2000 to ~5930 (unless I'm mistaken). And with 15th hyper, they will fly about as fast as LF's with ~17th reactive.

The base speed is changed as well ;-)

Those values are calculated and taken from a test server.

As benneb already mentioned, you can test it on the Origin server.

See Update 5.7.9 if you need higher research levels

Zapio · Jul 17th 2014, 5:39pm

benneb wrote:

you can test it in test server Origin

How can you test it if getting to level 15 hyper will take months.

Killacrazy · Jul 17th 2014, 5:42pm

Dear user,

You don't have those high drive levels ?
You want to test it and give factual feedback ?

We set the impulse drive up to 17 for the first 10 users, who contact Francolino via board PM or in IRCwebirc.onlinegamesnet.net:9090/?channels=ogame.origin

Best regards,

From: Update 5.7.9

benneb · Jul 17th 2014, 5:42pm

See Update 5.7.9 if you need higher research levels

Horcon · Jul 17th 2014, 6:42pm

For those who wonder about the base speed change, here are the values I came up with after doing some speed comparisons with other ships at the same distance.

Recycler speed when at impulse 17: 17595
Base speed: 5175

Recycler speed when at hyperdrive 15: 32625
Base speed: 7250

I'm fairly certain these are correct, as that's what lines up using the formulas, however these base speeds aren't exactly standard if you ask me, especially the impulse one, so I'm not completely sure.

Francolino · Jul 17th 2014, 7:19pm

Horcon wrote:

For those who wonder about the base speed change, here are the values I came up with after doing some speed comparisons with other ships at the same distance.

Recycler speed when at impulse 17: 17595
Base speed: 5175

Recycler speed when at hyperdrive 15: 32625
Base speed: 7250

I'm fairly certain these are correct, as that's what lines up using the formulas, however these base speeds aren't exactly standard if you ask me, especially the impulse one, so I'm not completely sure.

It's correct that the base speed changes with the drive :)

For impulse 17 the speed is 17.600

For hyperdrive 15 the speed is 33000

Now you are able to calculate the correct base speed ;-)

One hint: The recycler flight time for hyperdrive 15 is not 100% correct, i recalculated them. Will be updated the next hours.

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