Techs. ship yard 10. plasma tech. 10. laser tech 12. impulse drive 8. hyper drive8, cost metal 150k. crystal 125k. deuterium . 90k. structurial. 275,000. shields base 950 weapons base. 2800. cargo space 750. base speed .5.500. / fuel cost. 2500. . . ( recieves rapid fire 5 from deathstars.. recieves rapid fire 2 from battle cruisers.) ( has rapid fire 5 against probes sats. rapid fire 5 against cruisers and heavy fighters and rapid fire 10 against . rocket launchers, light lasers. ) can a dev. run a hof sim on this please to finish rounding out my design.

I see it as a sister ship to the destroyer for combating rip fleets. and early in game defending against destroyer fleets.

and with its rapid fire on cruisers it can be used against large cruiser fleets to great effect.

I changed the base speed to be more reflective of its size.

Techs. ship yard 10.
plasma tech. 10.
laser tech 12.
impulse drive 8.
hyper drive8,
cost metal 150k. crystal 125k. deuterium . 90k.
structurial. 275,000. shields base 950 weapons base. 2800. cargo space
750. base speed 4.500. / fuel cost. 2500. . . ( recieves rapid fire 5
from deathstars.. recieves rapid fire 2 from battle cruisers.)
( has rapid fire 5 against probes,solar sats.
rapid fire 5 against cruisers and heavy fighters.
and rapid fire 10 against . rocket launchers, light lasers. )
when hyper drive 8 is reached the harbinger uses hyper drive.

I changed the over all speed some what. and fuel usage.
Techs. ship yard 10.
plasma tech. 10.
laser tech 12.
impulse drive 8.
hyper drive8,
cost metal 150k. crystal 125k. deuterium . 90k.
structurial. 275,000. shields base 950 weapons base. 2800. cargo space
750. base speed 4.200. / fuel cost. 2.000. . . ( recieves rapid fire 50
from deathstars.. recieves rapid fire 2 from battle cruisers.)
( has rapid fire 5 against probes,solar sats.
rapid fire 5 against cruisers and heavy fighters.
and rapid fire 10 against . rocket launchers, light lasers. )
when hyper drive 8 is reached the harbinger uses hyper drive.

Thank you Disaster
and the harbinger is also designed to come out with or just before the battle cruiser. to combat cruiser and bomber fleets.
a player from the .org boards made a small suggestion for this ship so here is the changes he laid out.
I can see his point about shielding.

Techs. ship yard 10.
plasma tech. 10.
laser tech 12.
impulse drive 8.
hyper drive8.
shield tech 7.
cost metal 150k. crystal 125k. deuterium . 90k.
structurial. 275,000. shields base 950 weapons base. 2800. cargo space
750. base speed 4.200 / fuel cost. 2.000. . . ( recieves rapid fire 50
from deathstars.. recieves rapid fire 2 from battle cruisers.)
( has rapid fire 5 against probes,solar sats.
rapid fire 5 against cruisers and heavy fighters.
and rapid fire 10 against . rocket launchers, light lasers. )
when hyper drive 8 is reached the harbinger uses hyper drive.

Ok since some one pointed out that since the harbinger has higher fuel cost than the destroyer the speed should reflect it.
so here it is and it shouldnt have any more changes.

Techs. ship yard 10.
plasma tech. 10.
laser tech 12.
impulse drive 8.
hyper drive8.
shield tech 7.
cost metal 150k. crystal 125k. deuterium . 90k.
structurial. 275,000. shields base 950 weapons base. 2800. cargo space
750. base speed 5.200 / fuel cost. 2.000. . . ( recieves rapid fire 50
from deathstars.. recieves rapid fire 2 from battle cruisers.)
( has rapid fire 5 against probes,solar sats.
rapid fire 5 against cruisers and heavy fighters.
and rapid fire 10 against . rocket launchers, light lasers. )
when hyper drive 8 is reached the harbinger uses hyper drive.

Can i get a sim of this please i cant get it to work on my sim.

OK fair enough.

so more input any one.

speed sim sim .

32000 cruisers /25367.1


65000 harbingers /63835.1


23000 battle cruisers/22336.8

defender 3000 l.c./ 0
150.000 L.f. /0
10.000 B.S. /0
3colo. /0
13098 recylers /0
1200 bombers/0
2500 desys/0
50 death stars/0
6000 B.C. /0
after battle Attacker wins (100%) | after ~ 5 rounds

573,438,000 Metal (258%), 336,914,700 Crystal (257%) max. 45770 Recycler

losses attacker 222,450,000 Metal, 131,201,000 Crystal and 40,686,000 Deuterium

losses defender 1,689,010,000 Metal, 991,848,000 Crystal and 221,726,000 Deuterium

here it is with a sim

Techs. ship yard 10.
plasma tech. 10.
laser tech 12.
impulse drive 8.
hyper drive8.
shield tech lvl. 8
cost metal 150k. crystal 125k. deuterium . 90k.
structurial. 275,000. shields base 950 weapons base. 2800. cargo space
750. base speed 5.200 / fuel cost. 2.000. . . ( recieves rapid fire 50
from deathstars.. recieves rapid fire 2 from battle cruisers.)
( has rapid fire 5 against probes,solar sats.
rapid fire 5 against cruisers and heavy fighters.
and rapid fire 10 against . rocket launchers, light lasers. )
when hyper drive 8 is reached the harbinger uses hyper drive

speed sim sim .

32000 cruisers /25367.1


65000 harbingers /63835.1


23000 battle cruisers/22336.8

defender 3000 l.c./ 0
150.000 L.f. /0
10.000 B.S. /0
3colo. /0
13098 recylers /0
1200 bombers/0
2500 desys/0
50 death stars/0
6000 B.C. /0
after battle Attacker wins (100%) | after ~ 5 rounds

573,438,000 Metal (258%), 336,914,700 Crystal (257%) max. 45770 Recycler

losses attacker 222,450,000 Metal, 131,201,000 Crystal and 40,686,000 Deuterium

losses defender 1,689,010,000 Metal, 991,848,000 Crystal and 221,726,000 Deuterium

no changes but better sim. added



Techs. ship yard 10.
plasma tech. 10.
laser tech 12.
impulse drive 8.
hyper drive8.
shield tech lvl. 8
cost metal 150k. crystal 125k. deuterium . 90k.
structurial. 275,000. shields base 950 weapons base. 2800. cargo space
750. base speed 5.200 / fuel cost. 2.000. . . ( recieves rapid fire 50
from deathstars.. recieves rapid fire 2 from battle cruisers.)
( has rapid fire 5 against probes,solar sats.
rapid fire 5 against cruisers and heavy fighters.
and rapid fire 10 against . rocket launchers, light lasers. )
when hyper drive 8 is reached the harbinger uses hyper drive

speed sim sim .

32000 cruisers /25367.1


65000 harbingers /63835.1


23000 battle cruisers/22336.8

defender 3000 l.c./ 0
150.000 L.f. /0
10.000 B.S. /0
3colo. /0
13098 recylers /0
1200 bombers/0
2500 desys/0
50 death stars/0
6000 B.C. /0
after battle Attacker wins (100%) | after ~ 5 rounds

573,438,000 Metal (258%), 336,914,700 Crystal (257%) max. 45770 Recycler

losses attacker 222,450,000 Metal, 131,201,000 Crystal and 40,686,000 Deuterium

losses defender 1,689,010,000 Metal, 991,848,000 Crystal and 221,726,000 Deuterium

now with the wreck field coming out. a new defensive piece and a new ship would be nice to see as well. so there is no logical reason this idea should be rejected any more.