Deuterium Synthesizer - increase of production

chemikos · Dec 31st 2015, 1:24am

As all know we can increase production of metal and crystal by upgrading plasma technology. But not deuterium, I wonder why not?
You can say that we can choose deuterium production level by choosing planet number in a solar system. I think it is not enough.
I have an idea how to make Deuterium Synthesizer more efficient.
We have only to change a little formula for deuterium production.

Now we have:

(EC*(10*(LVL)*1,1^(LVL))*(1,44-0,004*T);0)
ES - eco speed
LVL - level of Deuterium Synthesiezr
T - temperature

I propose a new formula:
(EC*(10*(LVL)*1,1^(LVL))*(1,44-0,004*(T-2*HT));0)
HT - Hyperspace Technology

I suggest Hyperspace Techology becouse it is useless after reaching eight level and it's have similar costs like Plasma Technology (let's say so).

Now we check efficient for 20th level (Plasma and HT)
For metal it is 20%
For krystal it is 0,66%*20=13,2%

And efficient for deuterium production depends of planet temperature.
At spoiler you can see everything. EC=1, LVL=30, HT=20

Display Spoiler

Example:
P - Production
NP - New Production - take a 40 degreese less (2*HT=40)
I - Increase I=((NP-P)/P)*100%

1. T=260 (maxiumum)
P=2094
NP=2932
I=((2932-2094)/2094)*100%=40,02%

2. T=100
P=5445
NP=6282
I=((6282-5445)/5445)*100%=15,37%

3. T=0
P=7539
NP=8376
I=((8376-7539)/739)*100%=11,10%

As You can see, efficienty is descending with "starting temperature" of planet.

I hope you understood everything (my english) and like it :)

gamer2014 · Feb 13th 2016, 1:33pm

Lunituni · Feb 13th 2016, 10:13pm

chemikos · Mar 30th 2016, 12:02am

Only two people like (or dislike) this idea?

NoMoreAngel · Mar 31st 2016, 8:46pm

Some time ago there was a survey about what to do with the graviton-research. In Germany the winning idea was so increase the production of the deutsynth by 5% per graviton-level.

Your idea makes more sense when you take into account, that researching graviton to a high level isn't that hard.

+1 from my side

Imperor · Mar 31st 2016, 10:07pm

We have to consider that new changes with planets and their size make more usefull planets of 13,14,15, so more players would use them and would produce more duty.
So i won't change default production, but using a technology like plasma that increase metal and crystal with another technology would be interesting.
I don't know if graviton would be the best because more levels is too difficult... but something like hyperspace or energy with laser...(a combination of them) would be a good idea in my opinion.

chemikos · Apr 1st 2016, 9:06pm

@Imperor - bigger planets on 13th, 14th, 15th position is great idea, but only for new universes where you can build account like you want. Players on old universes will not delete planet costs about 10M+ points for higher duterium production. Make new planet? For me it means make 27 lvl astro. Even if I play x5 eco it is not cheap.

@NoMoreAngel- I had an idea about gravitons but polish crew didn't like it. In short way: shorter researches by 10% (or less) per lvl combine with laser technology (LT) making solars more efficienty - forumla (LT/12)^x (x = 3 or 4 or 5) for extra energy

gamer2014 · Apr 28th 2016, 2:44am

WeTeHa wrote:

I think we often do quite a nice job in discussing new features and implementing changes / additions based on players feedback

this thread is a good example why this thinking above is false.

a user posts a really cool idea in which he clearly put some thinking and effort. instead of looking for a dialogue in this thread disussing his idea you just ignore it and a few months later silently change the deu production in an insignificant way.

bravo

Imperor · Apr 28th 2016, 2:38pm

Is not much, but is a bit increase.

In my opinion t's impossible to increase much more because it won't be realistic

Shole · Apr 30th 2016, 11:24am

From now on every Plasma level will increase deuterium production for 0.33%.
So this suggestion is accepted and implemented with little change.

gamer2014 · May 1st 2016, 6:43am

the recent change has almost nothing to do with the idea posted here other than the increase of deu production

Imperor · May 2nd 2016, 12:02pm

It's not as chemikos explained.. but this is my opinon.

Duty has to be produced in a real way, if it's production increases a lot miners wouldn't have their important utility sending their duty.

if you analyze it, duty in cold planets is produced as the same way as crystal if you have high mines, because crystal ones are the most expensive ones in each level.

So with an account with 12 planets and 37 32 33 (for example) with a maximum temperature of -5 in each planet you can get approximately this production per day:
Without plasma technology
Metal: 10.878M
Crystal: 3.895M
Deuterium: 3.222M

If we increase this more, deuterium would be more produced as crystal, something I think it won't be real.
If to this example of account you add plasma technology (level 15) before adding the extra duty it give us now we have next production
Metal: 12.509M
Crystal: 4.281M
Deuterium: 3.222M

The extra 0.33% given would add to this production approximately 160k.

To be honest is a little amount that's true, but we have to be honest. If we increase this more it would be a maladjustment

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