The Harbinger

Blackmass · Mar 16th 2014, 3:51am

Techs. ship yard 10. plasma tech. 10. laser tech 12. impulse drive 8. hyper drive8, cost metal 150k. crystal 125k. deuterium . 90k. structurial. 275,000. shields base 950 weapons base. 2800. cargo space 750. base speed .5.500. / fuel cost. 2500. . . ( recieves rapid fire 5 from deathstars.. recieves rapid fire 2 from battle cruisers.) ( has rapid fire 5 against probes sats. rapid fire 5 against cruisers and heavy fighters and rapid fire 10 against . rocket launchers, light lasers. )

can a dev. run a hof sim on this please to finish rounding out my design.

Killacrazy · Mar 24th 2014, 2:14am

Seems to me a heavy ship designed to be able to combat the other heavy ship? (destroyer)

Where would you see this fitting into the game?

Blackmass · Mar 31st 2014, 2:44am

I see it as a sister ship to the destroyer for combating rip fleets. and early in game defending against destroyer fleets.

Blackmass · Apr 3rd 2014, 12:43am

and with its rapid fire on cruisers it can be used against large cruiser fleets to great effect.

Blackmass · Apr 5th 2014, 5:39am

I changed the base speed to be more reflective of its size.

Techs. ship yard 10.
plasma tech. 10.
laser tech 12.
impulse drive 8.
hyper drive8,
cost metal 150k. crystal 125k. deuterium . 90k.
structurial. 275,000. shields base 950 weapons base. 2800. cargo space
750. base speed 4.500. / fuel cost. 2500. . . ( recieves rapid fire 5
from deathstars.. recieves rapid fire 2 from battle cruisers.)
( has rapid fire 5 against probes,solar sats.
rapid fire 5 against cruisers and heavy fighters.
and rapid fire 10 against . rocket launchers, light lasers. )
when hyper drive 8 is reached the harbinger uses hyper drive.

Blackmass · Apr 10th 2014, 5:11pm

I changed the over all speed some what. and fuel usage.
Techs. ship yard 10.
plasma tech. 10.
laser tech 12.
impulse drive 8.
hyper drive8,
cost metal 150k. crystal 125k. deuterium . 90k.
structurial. 275,000. shields base 950 weapons base. 2800. cargo space
750. base speed 4.200. / fuel cost. 2.000. . . ( recieves rapid fire 50
from deathstars.. recieves rapid fire 2 from battle cruisers.)
( has rapid fire 5 against probes,solar sats.
rapid fire 5 against cruisers and heavy fighters.
and rapid fire 10 against . rocket launchers, light lasers. )
when hyper drive 8 is reached the harbinger uses hyper drive.

DISASTER · Apr 10th 2014, 6:45pm

I'm not very great in sims but I can somewhat understand the role you're creating here. I like it +1 more ships and variability for fleet combos would be cool

Blackmass · Apr 12th 2014, 1:30am

Thank you Disaster
and the harbinger is also designed to come out with or just before the battle cruiser. to combat cruiser and bomber fleets.
a player from the .org boards made a small suggestion for this ship so here is the changes he laid out.
I can see his point about shielding.

Techs. ship yard 10.
plasma tech. 10.
laser tech 12.
impulse drive 8.
hyper drive8.
shield tech 7.
cost metal 150k. crystal 125k. deuterium . 90k.
structurial. 275,000. shields base 950 weapons base. 2800. cargo space
750. base speed 4.200 / fuel cost. 2.000. . . ( recieves rapid fire 50
from deathstars.. recieves rapid fire 2 from battle cruisers.)
( has rapid fire 5 against probes,solar sats.
rapid fire 5 against cruisers and heavy fighters.
and rapid fire 10 against . rocket launchers, light lasers. )
when hyper drive 8 is reached the harbinger uses hyper drive.

Blackmass · Apr 14th 2014, 7:58am

Ok since some one pointed out that since the harbinger has higher fuel cost than the destroyer the speed should reflect it.
so here it is and it shouldnt have any more changes.

Techs. ship yard 10.
plasma tech. 10.
laser tech 12.
impulse drive 8.
hyper drive8.
shield tech 7.
cost metal 150k. crystal 125k. deuterium . 90k.
structurial. 275,000. shields base 950 weapons base. 2800. cargo space
750. base speed 5.200 / fuel cost. 2.000. . . ( recieves rapid fire 50
from deathstars.. recieves rapid fire 2 from battle cruisers.)
( has rapid fire 5 against probes,solar sats.
rapid fire 5 against cruisers and heavy fighters.
and rapid fire 10 against . rocket launchers, light lasers. )
when hyper drive 8 is reached the harbinger uses hyper drive.

Blackmass · Apr 21st 2014, 4:18am

Can i get a sim of this please i cant get it to work on my sim.

TheViking · May 10th 2014, 2:18pm

Unfortenately i have to say that new ship implementations are not planed for the nearer future.

We will keep this idea in the "currently rejected ideas" subboard.
Although the chance is not that big there were some ideas in this area that made it into the game on a later point.

Blackmass · May 10th 2014, 10:35pm

OK fair enough.

Blackmass · Aug 27th 2014, 5:14pm

so more input any one.

Blackmass · Dec 18th 2014, 11:34am

speed sim sim .

32000 cruisers /25367.1

65000 harbingers /63835.1

23000 battle cruisers/22336.8

defender 3000 l.c./ 0
150.000 L.f. /0
10.000 B.S. /0
3colo. /0
13098 recylers /0
1200 bombers/0
2500 desys/0
50 death stars/0
6000 B.C. /0
after battle Attacker wins (100%) | after ~ 5 rounds

573,438,000 Metal (258%), 336,914,700 Crystal (257%) max. 45770 Recycler

losses attacker 222,450,000 Metal, 131,201,000 Crystal and 40,686,000 Deuterium

losses defender 1,689,010,000 Metal, 991,848,000 Crystal and 221,726,000 Deuterium

Blackmass · Apr 9th 2015, 4:52pm

here it is with a sim

Techs. ship yard 10.
plasma tech. 10.
laser tech 12.
impulse drive 8.
hyper drive8.
shield tech lvl. 8
cost metal 150k. crystal 125k. deuterium . 90k.
structurial. 275,000. shields base 950 weapons base. 2800. cargo space
750. base speed 5.200 / fuel cost. 2.000. . . ( recieves rapid fire 50
from deathstars.. recieves rapid fire 2 from battle cruisers.)
( has rapid fire 5 against probes,solar sats.
rapid fire 5 against cruisers and heavy fighters.
and rapid fire 10 against . rocket launchers, light lasers. )
when hyper drive 8 is reached the harbinger uses hyper drive

speed sim sim .

32000 cruisers /25367.1

65000 harbingers /63835.1

23000 battle cruisers/22336.8

defender 3000 l.c./ 0
150.000 L.f. /0
10.000 B.S. /0
3colo. /0
13098 recylers /0
1200 bombers/0
2500 desys/0
50 death stars/0
6000 B.C. /0
after battle Attacker wins (100%) | after ~ 5 rounds

573,438,000 Metal (258%), 336,914,700 Crystal (257%) max. 45770 Recycler

losses attacker 222,450,000 Metal, 131,201,000 Crystal and 40,686,000 Deuterium

losses defender 1,689,010,000 Metal, 991,848,000 Crystal and 221,726,000 Deuterium

Santa · Apr 9th 2015, 6:37pm

Seems like a fun ship, could see it work in-game :thumbup:

Lunituni · Apr 11th 2015, 9:09pm

Santa wrote:

Seems like a fun ship, could see it work in-game

Blackmass · Dec 1st 2015, 2:38am

no changes but better sim. added

Techs. ship yard 10.
plasma tech. 10.
laser tech 12.
impulse drive 8.
hyper drive8.
shield tech lvl. 8
cost metal 150k. crystal 125k. deuterium . 90k.
structurial. 275,000. shields base 950 weapons base. 2800. cargo space
750. base speed 5.200 / fuel cost. 2.000. . . ( recieves rapid fire 50
from deathstars.. recieves rapid fire 2 from battle cruisers.)
( has rapid fire 5 against probes,solar sats.
rapid fire 5 against cruisers and heavy fighters.
and rapid fire 10 against . rocket launchers, light lasers. )
when hyper drive 8 is reached the harbinger uses hyper drive

speed sim sim .

32000 cruisers /25367.1

65000 harbingers /63835.1

23000 battle cruisers/22336.8

defender 3000 l.c./ 0
150.000 L.f. /0
10.000 B.S. /0
3colo. /0
13098 recylers /0
1200 bombers/0
2500 desys/0
50 death stars/0
6000 B.C. /0
after battle Attacker wins (100%) | after ~ 5 rounds

573,438,000 Metal (258%), 336,914,700 Crystal (257%) max. 45770 Recycler

losses attacker 222,450,000 Metal, 131,201,000 Crystal and 40,686,000 Deuterium

losses defender 1,689,010,000 Metal, 991,848,000 Crystal and 221,726,000 Deuterium

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