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@Tallhante of course, if there won't be any more inactives, I'll also make a small farming fleet. I'm just saying that investing a lot just to hunt top200 isn't as good as mining/hunting inactives. Maybe it is with a lot of moons and working hard at getting every top player's online/FS times. However, even then the top players should have fleets to kill, and I don't feel like enough players in top200 currently have a fleet so that I'd feel like hunting them. I almost only have cargoes now and a …

I disagree. Farming inactives while mining is the best option right now, so it does not need another buff. Look, it's more superior than getting a fleet, because even with 75% plunder from nearly 200 targets, inactives are better because there are more of them. Currently, a top player having a fleet and raiding resources, will only need a couple hours to clear his whole area of +\- 100 solar systems to take everything that is profitable, concerning the deut costs. If every planet had a moon with…

So true

Very well done with this hit :). But comment about miners, meh. In any strategy game I play I'll try to find the 'optimal solution', which seems to be mines with new noob protection. In all my other universes I'm a fleet player. Besides, I don't even know how exactly the changes affected this universe - it used to be good to make fleet off 11th astro if you registered early on before, idk if now it's 13th/moons or 15th/moons. Just certainly not 11th. And it'll probably be a 30% acc fleet until 5…

cruisers, what's that EDIT: nice hit on unbalanced fleet from an active player...but actually, 31 destroyer might be a new hillarious approach to fleet escape

It's a good point - both expeditions low results and bugged top1 appeared at same time, short after the last update. However, if it was related to huge top1 point count, you'd still get standard results from what you're sending, but if you sent much more than usual - you'd be able to gain much more than usual. For example, when cap is raised to 12k, if you still send 9k expo fleets, you'll get same results - you'll just gain more if you send 12k. If the maximum expo points counted per expedition…

Just a minor thing. With commander enabled, when you open your message folder, it's default option (when there's no new messages), is to open on player message list. It'd be cool if it was customizable - for example, what I want to check, when there's no new messages, is almost always the espionage scan list; for various reasons. When server or my connection lags, switching to it 100500 times a day gets a little annoying

And I've always thought the correct way would be to know every planet's location from a database, know that astrophysics level match the amount of planets in database, and that every single one of them is offline for the whole duration of flight. Otherwise, one or multiple delays are necessary; and 15 seconds is actually a lot of time to get a scan in before your attack and call it back, even 7 seconds is enough(that's why I was critical of 'not scannig', sorry about that). Although on this serv…

Nice catch! Punish those "not going to delay or even scan" people

Nicely done...and with a great profit, even without all the debris

Quote from BesnaKobila: “Aouueu yuo are bandit now, right. Can u ACS attack or defend, coz i cant. i think its one of dissadvantages of being a bandit or just a bug” you cannot ACS attack a noob protected target, you cannon defend a person that appears noob protected to you sucks, right can't help most of my allies even when opportunity is there but bandit has nothing to do with it

Did that a couple times to see whether I'd start to get 75% from inactives / non-hp targets with a positive ranking. That'd be a huge boost to my income....but nope, the bonus only applies to (hp) targets, so I've gone back to being a bandit quick.

Using this table for rough estimation of probability(I think it's #1 and #2 "stage" of expedition, up to "no human here.." part, not sure): spreadsheets.google.com/spread…lmOFFVd0Z2YUNIMFlfWjZXcXc, as well as an assumption that rewards for fleet and resource gains have been lowered 10 times(maybe 10 times resources and 5 times fleet? not sure), and knowing what kind of opponent fleet you are going to meet on average / running a simulation to find losses with some standard expedition fleets, coun…

The probability of finding resources decreased in such cases. The amounts were always in the same range.

Update2: I've run some simulations, and, unless the probability of events also changed... if you keep the alien/pirate fleet losses + full expedition loss probabilities, but reduce the positive event values ten times(as it seems right now), the expedition estimated value(counting the deut. cost), becomes slightly negative, and, depending on composition, could be near 0. So....it's not just a waste of fleet slot right now(compared to raiding any inactive, for example) - you're losing some resourc…

Yes, they did; and yes, it sucks. for me, expeditions since we've gone back to x2, have been the standard ~25-30% of income(rougly, 1 expo was ~1kk / 24 hours, not missing any) After the update, I'm debating whether it's even worth the slot now. It probably isn't. Update: if it remains unchanged, it 100% _isn't_ worth the slot.

Should they really get noob protection? I've seen a bandit that I couldn't scan\attack. Do they just loose fleet escape atm?

Ingame Name:Aoueu Buying What:Deuterium Selling What:Met, Crys Buying in parties from 500k deuterium; available almost 24/7 Exchange rate - 2.5:1.5:1 For parties over 1.5kk deut, 2.6:1.6:1

Don't think it'd be that hard...all you need to do is change the speed of universe, then modify the base ship speeds to end up whatever you want after the multiplication. Still, it does ridiculously buff miners. Raiding would give more resources than usual of course, due to increased production, but it would be all too easy to get enough optimized defenses, and RIPs even on x2 would take whole night just to go one way. The available fleet slots count is also balanced according to production/flee…

Quote from iguypouf: “To make an intelligent test, the best is : - x8 for productions, buildings, researchs - x1 for fleet speed This combination permits to keep more testers and not only geeks, with a development faster than x1 Universes. And so test faster some features...” And after that you can turn off noob protection. Cuz' only noobs would keep making fleets