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Always loved those "lots-of-big-ships" hits. GG/FR...

Yes, as I said, it is implemented. But it isn't mentioned on any change list.

It seems that this has been implemented. Nobody mentioned it though...

Congratz on the newest addition to your family. Gargamel, fr...

I saw you on the board, and guessed that you had something interesting to post. Nice revenge hit. Shogun, fr...

Is it possible to add a link to GT? By clicking on it, the Galaxytool that you entered in settings would open. Maybe link it on the "G" icon, or simply add another line under "Galaxytoolbar"?

I agree with vulca: No defense to DF is an important balancing factor and shouldn't be changed. Marshen's idea about reducing the percentage of stolen ress in regular honourable fights is excellent. I also find the idea of every player in my military rank stealing 75% of my ress in one attack disturbing.

Nice. Hope you won't quit too. MaDDoG, fr...

Congratulations for a quick and good organization. Pain, gl in rl. It seems that all top players are quitting.

I wanted you to post military rankings/points, so we could see if there is a big difference in MP points between you and a player which is ranked 100 places lower than you on the MP list. If your uni has ~200/300 active players, then that probably is the case. If you have more than 100 rips, and can honourably attack with just 50 and still make a draw, then there is definitely something wrong. I agree that the fix should come quick, but I also think it should fix the real problem.

Vuica, I don't know where you get your definitions from. Destroying something (no matter whether it flies, or stays on the ground) and stealing isn't honourable. So there's no point in arguing what's honourable and what isn't in OGame. As to avoiding attacks for HP: simply don't build unnecessary units. NusaDua, I realize that you're not proposing going back to the old version, I was just giving an example. As you said yourself, there will always be people which rather complain than try to do so…

Of course it is. You can't cut out huge parts of the game as you like, just because people are being attacked. It's simply wrong. I already told you that we have tons of players complaining about the 3.0 version (not one complaint about being attacked just for honour points though), and threatening to quit OGame because of it. Should we abandon the 3.0 version completely because of them, or tell them to adapt and try to guide them how to do that? I still think that the problem you write about is…

I find it disgraceful. It's bad enough that defense isn't included in the escape ratio, and now you want to eliminate it from the HP system as well.

Quote from vulca: “- RIP VS def wasn't so serious : NusaDua tells you that he attacks just for HP, and will continu even if he thinks it's ridiculus. And he isn't the only one - No needs to have loss to attack somebody : At the begining : 3 planets with 50rl/50ll/ 10 hl => 800MP => Easy for 50 cruiser (1500MP to destroye you without loss) - then you built 5 Gauss on the 3 planets => ~ 1300 MP Nearly no perte if we attack with BS (just need to have a loot (40k) and it's OK ... When you have the p…

Massive respect for a massive hit. Talhante, I'm sure it will be a FR...

I agree that RIPs vs defense is a problem. But as I already said, that's a problem which is older than HP system. Turtles were regulary harassed by rippers in my community even before the HP system came, and they will be harassed no matter what you decide here. Currenty, the rippers in my community get HPs for destroying defenses, but that's just because the player count is too low for "100 players below you on MP list" to work. Look at the test server. Our top ripper is no1 on MP list. That mea…

Quote from vulca: “Quote: “However, the problem is that 100 places on MP list sometimes means a huge difference in MPs. Here is example from test server:” This "problem" is ONLY for the top 100. The problem about the HP is here whatever your rank, it's a fact. ” I simply don't believe this. It's not a fact. It's something that you wrote and it's based on other people's complaints. I have tons of players in my community that bitch about the 3.0 version, and very few of them have good arguments. Q…

I still think that defense should give HPs, as long as both players have nearly equal amount of MPs. However, the problem is that 100 places on MP list sometimes means a huge difference in MPs. Here is example from test server: MP rank MP % 1 400.184 101 76.475 19,11% 201 52.728 68,95% 301 42.132 79,90% 401 34.972 83,01% 501 28.491 81,47% 601 23.023 80,81% 701 18.464 80,20% 801 15.025 81,37% I don't think it's honourable for 400k MP player to attack a 76k MP player, no matter his profits. I thin…

Quote from vulca: “You show us the to 10 players ... But it's not them who risk the more. It's all others. ” I gave that example beacuse it shows that no1 ranked miner won't be an honourable target to a strong MP player. It's logical that weaker miners will have even less MPs, and that their attacker will have to be really weak in MPs to earn honour points. Quote: “ ... And I'm not talking about an old empty uni , but a real active uni with all kind of players ... There is no way to avoid attack…

Quote from vulca: “Quote: “Whether the fight is honourable or not is determined by a military highscore list. Basically, this is a good idea. If Attacker and target have similar amount of military points, it means that the target has a good chance of defending himself against the attacker, no matter what the attacker sends. In normal circumstances, mass ripper shouldn't be able to get hps by attacking a miner, because of a big difference in military points. But there is a problem in old unis, wh…